Past Episodes:
Raven Leilani on Taking Apart the Body in Art
“We would always go to see the body, and my mother would say ‘Ugh, she doesn’t look like herself.’”
Looking Back at 2020
There was a lot of dancing to get through that time. I was thinking about this last night… Why do all this if you can’t go sing and dance with your friends?”
Natalie Diaz on Finding the Ecstatic
“Anxiety, I think, is ecstatic. Being pushed to the limit. There have been times when I know my body can’t go anymore— and yet it is?”
Wayétu Moore on Returning to Liberia
“There was no other place I could go for healing or the sort of answers I was looking for than my first home.”
Cathy Park Hong on Shattering the Single Story
“I didn’t want to speak in a way that was operatic, I wanted to have a conversation. I wanted to talk instead of sing.”
Mychal Denzel Smith on Believing in the Future
“I had no conception of what a life after 30 could look like because I’d never imagined it. I’d always existed with the fear that I would die before then. “
Laura Kolbe on “Composing Together” in the COVID Ward
“It felt like being on a space shuttle or being at sea. I’ve never been in a space in the hospital that felt so cordoned from the usual power currents in the hospital. It really felt like a space in which we were learning together on a new shore.”
Rachel Eliza Griffiths on Seeing the Body
“I can see her sometimes in the mirror and it's really stunning. Sometimes I'm grateful for it, but other time I also think, Well where am I at actually, and what part of this body is me anymore?”
Kate Zambreno on Birth as Decreation
“I literally feel like I have one month left of my life, though I know that’s not true. It’s incredibly morbid, to be honest.”
Ocean Vuong on Writing the Aftermath
“That was the moment. I didn’t know what art was, I didn’t know what poetry was, but I knew that I had to find a way to hide from the life I was given and enter a different world.”
Leslie Jamison on Quarantine & Magic Time
“I’ve always been a creature of the past. I’ve always felt flooded and hounded and haunted by memory, but I found that it’s almost like present experience quieting down has left this room.”
Carmen Maria Machado on Surviving Her Memoir
“I had to pass the book like a kidney stone. I had to get it out of my system.”
Tara Westover on Leaving the Battlefield
“That was probably the first time I said I’m not sure I have control over this or I’m not really sure that what I do is going to be able to fix this. I don’t know.”
Wendy S. Walters Between Birth & Death
“My father was fighting death with everything he had. There was no peace. He was furious. My son was ready to do everything, talk and communicate and move. His body wasn’t always up to his desires.”
Alexander Chee on His First Police Riot
“I was always aware that I could get in trouble, quote unquote, but I wasn’t ever treated like that until this police riot.”
Mira Jacob on the Messiness of Family
“I remember this because my son fell asleep in the back of the car, and when he fell asleep, my husband said, Listen, I have to tell you. On the train, I had a really bad conversation with my folks.”